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{{DES | des = Also known as the law of identity, is a worthless piece of philosophical drivel that plainly doesn't apply to the real world and seems to be unnecessary in mathematics.  Objectivists use it as a [[shibboleth]]. | show=}}
 
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The modern formulation of identity is that of Gottfried Leibniz, who held that x is the same as y if and only if every predicate true of x is true of y as well.  [Cribbed from wikipedia.]  This makes it pretty obvious that A's at different times are not identical if only because there is a "time at" predicate.
 
The modern formulation of identity is that of Gottfried Leibniz, who held that x is the same as y if and only if every predicate true of x is true of y as well.  [Cribbed from wikipedia.]  This makes it pretty obvious that A's at different times are not identical if only because there is a "time at" predicate.
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Another major problem is that we never know "A": we only have our own views and concepts of an aspect of A, as in the story of the [[Blind men and an elephant]].  Thus, use of "A is A" would have to be restricted to a precise aspect of A, rather than A itself which is fundamentally unknowable.
  
 
Ludwig Wittgenstein writes (Tractatus 5.5301): "That identity is not a relation between objects is obvious." At 5.5303 he elaborates: "Roughly speaking: to say of two things that they are identical is nonsense, and to say of one thing that it is identical with itself is to say nothing." [Cribbed from wikipedia.]
 
Ludwig Wittgenstein writes (Tractatus 5.5301): "That identity is not a relation between objects is obvious." At 5.5303 he elaborates: "Roughly speaking: to say of two things that they are identical is nonsense, and to say of one thing that it is identical with itself is to say nothing." [Cribbed from wikipedia.]

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