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{{DES | des = Floating versions of [[Charter Cities]] that would have all of their ills PLUS great difficulty leaving due to isolation.  A past example is the Scientology Sea Org, notorious for abuses.  Many proposals for these have failed. For a seastead to actually, have sovereignty, it would have to be outside not just Territorial Waters, but outside the Exclusive Economic Zone according to the [https://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea]. | show=}}
 
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Revision as of 12:34, 11 October 2019

Floating versions of Charter Cities that would have all of their ills PLUS great difficulty leaving due to isolation. A past example is the Scientology Sea Org, notorious for abuses. Many proposals for these have failed. For a seastead to actually, have sovereignty, it would have to be outside not just Territorial Waters, but outside the Exclusive Economic Zone according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

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A libertarian utopia was actually tried here -- and it failed miserably [More...]
The comical tale of Minerva, the first of many libertarian colony frauds: it defrauded 2000 investors. "... the principality remained no more than a flag fluttering in the wind over a few square yards of debris that threatened to wash away in the next storm." And did wash away.
Libertarians Seek a Home on the High Seas: The unlikely rise -- and anti-democratic impulses -- of seasteading. [More...]
"Government is not simply an albatross around the neck of otherwise free individuals. When it works, it protects the vulnerable and guards the commons -- essential tasks at which the free market so often fails. Ocean dwellers will also need those protections. Much as we might like to, we can’t escape the political, even by walking into the sea."
Sea Org (Wikipedia) [More...]
The Sea Organization, or Sea Org, is a paramilitary wing of the Church of Scientology, comprising the church's most dedicated members. Sea Org members make a lifetime commitment to Scientology by signing a billion-year contract that is officially described as a symbolic pledge.
Seasteading (RationalWiki) [More...]
"Seasteading is the libertarian fantasy of attempting to establish a society on (or under) the sea. Given that a large swath of the oceans are international waters, outside the jurisdiction of any one country, some people see seasteading as the most viable possibility for creating new, autonomous states with their own pet political systems in place."
NEW 10/11/2019: United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea [More...]
The convention that, among other things, regulates claims on nations on the sea, such as Territorial Limits and Exclusive Economic Zones. For a seastead to actually have sovereignty, it would have to be outside not just Territorial Waters, but outside the Exclusive Economic Zone. See Articles 56 and 60 on pages 43 and 45.
NEW 10/11/2019: Why the Thai Navy was able to seize the Ocean Builders seastead under international law.
Chad Elwartowski and Supranee Thepdet lived for about two months in the cabin hailed as the “first seastead” by the group Ocean Builders. It was outside Territorial Limits but within the Exclusive Economic Zone of Thailand established by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. That gave the Thai government the right to regulate the establishment and use of artificial islands, installations and structures.

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